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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:18 pm
by mr_bungholeo
that doesnt sound good....
hope its is just the bearing and you've got to it in time before it starts breaking up....
got half a dozen bottom ends in bits,let me know whats gone....ill have a rummage....

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:43 pm
by garye345
mgtkr1 wrote: when you eventually fit new gasgets, use a smear of grease as it means they wont stick therefore are reusable
top tip =D> =D> =D>
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:57 pm
by garye345
mgtkr1 wrote:also sounds like the flywheel has come adrift but on just enough so that if fires/runs. happened to me at cadwell last yr, thought i had lunched something in the gearbox/clutch and turned out to be the flywheel bolt. fixed with re-torque then loctite. whip that plastic cover off and have a look. whatever it is, the noise dissapears when you blip the throttle so i guess it would be something minor. check the water pump, oil pump, clutch, flywheel etc before removing the top end as its easier and no point wrecking the base gaskets unless you have to. when you eventually fit new gasgets, use a smear of grease as it means they wont stick therefore are reusable
on the money,exactly what had happened.wish i had checked before i took the engine out though,only forgot to disconnect the electrics and oilfeed pipe this time

(chain last time)only thing now though is i cannot start the thing,got spark and petrol but will it £**K start,anyhow thanks guys

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:02 pm
by garye345
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:16 pm
by the-elf
Ahh if the flywheel has knocked the pick up coil that could be the problem. I've had that happen before and it flip up the pickup. if its poping it sounds like the timing and thats what happened to mine the pickup coil was firing intermittenly and caused simular problems. if not then look for a bad or incorrect electrical connection. The other thing is you haven't got the flywheel on correctly so the timing is out.
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:49 pm
by garye345
are flywheels all the same cause that seems to me the most obvious with it backfiring when kicked and bumped,there is only one way to fit the flywheel cause theres only one groove for the woodruff key,will change the pickup in the morning and i think i may put the original fly wheel back on just to test,cheers elf

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:39 am
by the-elf
There are two different flywheels but they are the same, timing wise, except for cosmetric differences in how the magnets are fitted on the inside. If its fitted onto the crank correctly, ie on the key, then I would go for the pick up coil. if not then a bad connection somewhere.
The fact thats its backfiring shows that you are getting a spark and fuel but not both at the right time or possiably a weak spark, due to a damaged stator coil. I know it always takes me ages to get a new engine running as I soak the crank bearings in two stroke oil during the engine build which then drip into the cases and then causes a oil rich mixture for a bit until the surplus oil has left the engine, but I would rather do that than leave a dry bearing in the crank.
When mine went south I had both coils go on me, the stator failed slowly over a month or so but once it went it was easy to find with a multimeter, but at first it only started to fail under load so appeared to be fine when tested normally. The pick up coil got screwed at the same time due to the flywheel breaking free, which was probably caused by me messing around trying to solve the original problem

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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:23 am
by garye345
cheers all it was my error the flywheel wasnt on properly(which numpty said it can only go on one way?)

will be over to see you tues mr red devil 777,going out for a colliers monday afternoon sess today then

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:16 pm
by rad
Can get you some ear plugs from work!
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:26 pm
by garye345
yer joking rad mate......carnt even find any work

anyhow to get back to the engine bit,bought a race bike a bit back as a non runner doing same as mine coughin and farting when kicking it over,can yer guess what it was yet?funking result

snapped woodruft key

so got a tuned engine that sounds a ok

but that leads me on to another question does any one have just a daylight mot kinda bike,cause i am thinking of selling mine

and just doing a track hack with a day light mot to keep the smile on me face

do they just need a number plate and rear light?

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:02 pm
by the-elf
Daylight MOT just needs a working horn, number plate and the usual working brakes, legal tyres etc.