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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:12 pm
by fred
did about 100 miles since sunday checked plugs this evening
grey left (changed to middle clip from top)
light biscuit brown right (left alone) i think ime getting there ,fitted a foam filter and went out and it seems a fair bit better ,filter helps smoothes things out low down and is definitely needed in this wet weather
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:51 pm
by dave32
Keep up the testing,your get there in the end if you go about it methodically and dont presume or predict anything.
is the plug description you mention after a good blast and hit the kill switch or just general riding?
If its the latter i would go richer on the needle on both,generally you want a dark brown after normal riding and a light tan after a good "clear out".
Are you running B9's or 10's?
Also cant remember if i said it before but dont turn the pump up as it will lean the fuel mix.
HTH

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:50 am
by fred
hi dave, i didnt alter the oil in the end ,i richend up the left ,ran for 3 days then dropped the left one notch (it was sooty n black),bit the bullet and got hotter plugs and motul 800 ,was crispy dry air today but me batterys nailed ,pulls clean to what i dare at the moment 11 1/2 ,the difference between 8 n 11 is a fair bit better ,ile have a muckabout this weekend ,and i dont know which cdi `s in ,ile do a run on both now its nearly appy
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:52 am
by 500bernie
Hi Fred,
Do you run the Motul 800 as premix or pump?
Cheers
Bernie

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:52 pm
by fred
its on the pump but its the offroad 800 ,its clearly thicker than the 710 but thinner than the road race ,will be having a look at how it injects tommoro
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:37 pm
by 500bernie
Hi Fred,
The only reason I asked was, I was going to buy some and it said premix, for pumps use the 710.
Just found out the Wisco pistons for my bike cost 150 a shot, so I need to be careful with the ones I have
Cheers
Bernie

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:14 pm
by fred
at that price i would be carefull as well ,ime going to try it and see ,if i was on replated bores and new pistons i may be doing things different ,but at the moment i can try things
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:26 pm
by dave32
I wouldnt take too much notice of the "premix only",ive run the 800 Road race and Off Road version through the KR pump in winter and it was fine,also silkolene Pro 2 which is another "premix only" labelled oil.
Maybe some pumps arent as effecient as the KR pump so they need to cover themselves if you use it in a pump at minus 10 degrees or such.
Only oils i wouldnt use in a pump would be castor/synthetic blends,all the above are 100pc synthetic.
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:48 pm
by fred
i did 20 miles tonight after checking the flow ,ive got no worries whatsoever and its bloomin cold about 3 degrees ,ime ready for a dyno run now as soon as i can afford it ,ran it on the cdi with 1234 on it cant remember if its the kr1 box ,running realy good in all rev ranges

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:13 am
by dave32
The CDI's vary (in quality?) and consistency so although the S should work better for the later peaking (500rpm) S spec motor this isnt really how things are,your either lucky or not.
For the record,ive run a few S and B2 CDI's on the same engine (tuned B2) and there was some difference at high rpm but it was actually the B2 version that allowed the higher revs before peaking.
You can tell which is which easily,turn the ignition ON,B2 cycles the valves with no delay,The S stops in the OPEN for a few secs then Closes.
If you get a chance take a pic of the plugs after youve been out for a good ride,be interested to see them.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:56 pm
by fred
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:41 pm
by Top-shaggy
Brilliant pics Fred... Your putting us all to shame =D>
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:32 pm
by marksim
Well done to you and weather looks good
Re: Happy new year ,and the suns out
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:57 am
by fred

where does the time go ? got some new brake seals now t fit ,ime guessing new pistons n all ,wele see said the blind dog to the deaf donkey
Re: Happy new year ,and the suns out
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:32 pm
by dave32
Good to hear and see she's going well
be interesting to see how the pipes compare back to back on your engine.