Page 1 of 1

gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:26 pm
by Mouser
So, what I also noticed these 2 rides is that the gearbox is really hard to shift, compared to RGV, FZR...
I changed the gearbox oil, yes it is the correct one and there is enough too.

Thanks
Chris

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:37 pm
by Luders
Might be worn, I've never had any issues and have about 7-8 KR-1S gearboxes

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:08 pm
by Mouser
What could it be? Any idea?

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:24 pm
by Luders
When you say it's hard to shift, how exactly do you mean? Does it occur between and specific gear shifts?

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:41 pm
by Mouser
No, it's all the time in every gears hard to shift. Even whith the engine not running, I tested it by hand, it's hard to shift from 1-6.

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:44 pm
by KR-1R
.
.
first check the nut adjustment of clutch cable at clutch (engine) end
if its loose or not standard (5-6mm) this seems to affect leverage ratio and gear engagement
check you have 80-90° of the actuator arm
[consult 5-4 sevice manual for photos]

then adjust free play at handlebar lever end

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:31 pm
by Mouser
Ok, thanks KR-1E, I'll check that tomorrow!

Thanks
Mouser

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:26 pm
by KR-1R
the angle and linkage of the foot lever can make a big difference in how clunky the gears engage

do these first before you neef tto open engine

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:12 am
by Luders
When you move the lever up and down in the free play area before the gear gets selected, is that okay?

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:11 am
by JanBros
and check that the lever isn't worn where it pushes against the push rod.

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:11 pm
by Mouser
I adjusted the foot lever.

I adjusted the freeplay of the cable.

Nothing changed

The freeplay between the gears feels very easy, it's the engagment itself.

Could it be some part of the external shift mechanism (behind the ext. shift mech. cover)?

Thanks
Mouser

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:55 pm
by Luders
Unlikely, it sounds more like the relationship between the drum and selector forks.

Sounds like you're going to have to get in there and take a good look around I'm afraid, there's no easy solution.

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:15 am
by Mouser
ok...

Most scaring question of course :).

Do I have to take out the whole block?

Thanks
Mouser

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:18 am
by Luders
No, but you do need to remove the clutch inner and outer cover

Re: gearbox issue

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:04 pm
by Mouser
Hi again,

So I had a good look at the outer shift mechanism.

You won't believe it but it was the spring tension which made the shifting so hard.

The spring which connects the lever to the outer part of the drum.

The lever disconnected the drum turn very easily with the hand.
I just tore the spring a bit to get it about 1-2mm longer.

Now the shifting is very smooth!

Thanks for the help anyway.
Mouser