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Mystery carbon pattern

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:40 pm
by Howie
Actually had five minutes to myself today, so I decided to strip my Kc100 \:D/

I whipped the head off to check that all was well & found a lot of carbon deposited on the piston crown & the combustion chamber.

But whats foxed me was the strange 'swirly' pattern in the carbon on the piston crown :-k

There is no damage to the barrel or head nor to the crown itself, I've never seen this before.

Anyone come across this before?

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:06 pm
by 500bernie
Hi Howie,

How about a photo so we can all ponder and appreciate the phenomenon :-k

Cheers,
Bernie :D

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:30 pm
by Howie
[img][img]http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy28 ... 001-17.jpg[/img][/img]

There you go Bernie.The picture doesn't really do it justice. I took this before cleaning the carbon off the piston. At first I thought maybe at some point a ring had broken & gone whizzing around the barrel, scoring the piston but the pattern is just in the carbon.

My only thought is maybe a ring had broken, scored the carbon & then the previous owner just replaced the rings & not done anything else :-k
Or possibly a plug problem as the plug in the engine is relatively new :-k

Bit of a mystery.

I'll be fitting a new piston/ring set when I rebuild the engine anyway but just had me wondering :-k

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:48 pm
by 500bernie
Hi Howie,
Not seen that before :-k

I wonder what was going on to cause that :?:

Cheers
Bernie :D

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:14 pm
by 375
Looks pretty much a perfect circle.

Crop circle 8-[

Howie another bike how many you got now.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:18 pm
by headcoats
What does the head look like ?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:48 pm
by Howie
Crop circle

Howie another bike how many you got now.
Funny you should say that 375, I thought 'crop circle' as soon as I saw it.
As for my bike stock, I have 2 runners(mot etc) \:D/ & about 5, possibly 6 in various stages of rebuild :oops:
It's not my fault, honestly :lol:

The head, is fine HC, lots of carbon but no damage or pitting, nowt :-k
The engine has been split at some point (tell tale red gasket sealant everywhere :roll: ).
I honestly think it has shed a ring, part up, part down & a previous owner has just done what they had to, to get it running again :-k

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:15 pm
by Tambo
375 wrote: Crop circle 8-[
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't think it can be a burn patern - has to have been something mechanical to make it (I think 8-[ ) If there's loads of sealant elsewhere, could it have squidged (not sure they'd accept that as a word on countdown :| ) a circle in from the head gasket, and then eventually burnt away ?

Tommy

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:27 pm
by Charles
Has your daughter been playing with it?

Charles

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:09 pm
by maccas
Is there a base gasket fitted?

Has the piston kissed the head?

Can't remember if the kc has a squish band style head or not, just seems as though there is no pattern in the centre of the piston.

Maccas

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:24 pm
by headcoats
Clean the carbon up and let's see what's underneath :P

Re: Mystery carbon pattern

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:05 pm
by TwoStroke Institute
Howie wrote: But whats foxed me was the strange 'swirly' pattern in the carbon on the piston crown :-k

Anyone come across this before?
Yes it's a message from the 2 Stroke Godsl

Says "Fix your friggin jetting" :lol:

Re: Mystery carbon pattern

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:39 am
by the_bard
TwoStroke Institute wrote:
Yes it's a message from the 2 Stroke Godsl

Says "Fix your friggin jetting" :lol:
bahahahahahahaha love it!!!!!! \:D/