F3 kips valves to be manufactured

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:44 am

TwoStroke Institute wrote: Might be up for a set if you do another run or if someone doesn't pony up for their pre-ordered set.

They're still available if you (or anyone else) want them. If more people want them and we run out of valves we'll just order more aluminium.

Thanks for your comments.

It hasn't been that stressful, it's just I don't like to break my promises, which I now had to. Herbert had some other more important jobs and therefore I had to wait

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:15 pm

First batch of valves are ready

fatboy · Post by **fatboy** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:30 pm

Hi Charles

Great work. Just pm'd you

the-elf · Post by **the-elf** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:39 am

[quote="Charles"]First batch of valves are ready

[quote]

I am sat here waiting for them

Cash has been paypaled as well.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:26 am

First batch consists of 31 sets. Ordered so far have been 32sets. I'll take one set only for myself then, so everyone else will get his set(s) as ordered.

Please allow me some time before I post them, just to be sure I'll check all valves if they fit into the barrels I've got here.

Herbert just told me that minimum batch size for future sets will have to be 40valves, so 10sets.

I'll start a new topic for a second batch, as I'd like a second set for myself as well. As soon as 10sets will have been ordered, I will have them made.

cheers,
Charles

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:16 am

Would be great if I'd receive your payments asap, as I got to pay the whole lot this week.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:52 pm

Shipped today sets of valves to:

The Elf (express)
Falconman
Kwackman12
kr1stian
Heppi

Could you please confirm the reception of your valves? If you want the tracking code of your letter, please pm.

Will post all other sets who have already been paid for tomorrow morning, didn't have enough time today to get them all ready.

cheers,
Charles

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:13 am

Just been to the post office and shipped valves to:

rgvlee
corvine
fatboy
KR1-32
Steely
Speedy
Salty
morso9

Could you please confirm the reception of your valves? If you want the tracking code of your letter, please pm.

For those who haven't paid yet, will post next valves on Friday.

cheers,
Charles

the-elf · Post by **the-elf** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:46 pm

Valves arrived today, Nice work Charles.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:01 pm

the-elf wrote:Valves arrived today, Nice work Charles.

No, it's not been nice work.

Sorry to anyone who's ordered.......

Just tried to fit the valves in my spare engine, the holes in the shaft have been drilled too low, the levers/wheels won't fit now.

Spoke to Herbert, he'll replace all valves asap (first ones will be ready this Wednesday) and will pay the postal charges for those valves that have already been shipped. Fool that I am, I didn't have a original valve at hand as I collected the valves, otherwise I would have noticed this fault directly.

This is what went wrong: the bloke who measured my original valve measured the height (approx 85.6mm IIRC) of the hole from the base of the valve:

He then programmed the milling machine to drill the hole applying this measurement from the bottom tip of the valve :

And so all valves made are faulty and can be binned...........

Sorry again, I'm only human............

Charles

Leewc · Post by **Leewc** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:14 pm

That must be annoying Charles.

Well done for taking the time and effort to get these parts manufactured, they look great.

iain250 · Post by **iain250** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:53 pm

Keep at it charles this what restoring bikes is all about . To me the finished valve looks like its going to be a fine piece of engineering.

Charles · Post by **Charles** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:02 pm

thanks guys,

I feel bad enough

Wanted to ship them as fast as possible as you all had to wait long enough. Checked the fitment of every single valve in my spare barrels here and overlooked this bloody hole, as the original valves I got were still at Herberts place.... Must admit I didn't think something a simple as the location of that hole would cause any problems...... After all Herberts employees are supposed to be professionals

JanBros · Post by **JanBros** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:56 pm

do you have to return all the faulty valves ?

if not, can I have a couple set's

shouldn't be to difficult to make them fit. cut the shaft off, drill a hole in the valve, make new shafts on my lathe and screw them in with loctite.

I'll even pay the "scrap aluminium price"

the-elf · Post by **the-elf** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:07 am

Looking at them the difference in the hole it is alot so you could drill and tap them your selve correctly. they won't be very strong as the holes will be quite close but if you have access to a lathe and some threaded bar you could fill the hole and locktite the inserts in place.

charles don't worry shit like this happens all the time.

Don't forget clutch stars next and then the round rings that fit on the gear selectors which are now NLA need making. these need to be of titanium and very good quality (tight tolerance) unlike the original Kwack items.